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In this conversation, Devinder Singh and Gordon Trewern discussed that there has been a trend of organizations collectively losing more money than gaining profits. The trajectory is consistent with other reports that profitability is going down.

However, there is a mixed bag in terms of corporate overheads, with some organisations being very profitable and others making significant losses. It depends on how the organisations have approached their operations, reformed their overheads, and reorganised work activities. The example of Nulsen Disability Services shows that major reforms can turn a significant loss into profit.

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